Are benefits are no longer a safety net, but a career choice?
Who deserves or should get benefits and how much should they get.
As you can see from the table above there are many types of people who get benefits. Some are needier and more worthy than others.
People on benefits work options are limited.
People say there is no jobs in their area.
To eradicate squalor, ignorance, want, idleness and disease OR encouraging citizens to do the right thing - to work, to save, to take personal responsibility?
Whether you support benefits or not, not many people believe the benefits system are being run effectively.
Those who have the biggest sense of entitlement are the Govt.
They demand the right to tax you, demand NI contributions, VAT, council tax, fuel duty, stamp duty, and all the other stealth taxes.
They then say you are the one who has a sense of entitlement if you want to claim something back.
So even though the advice is there that a family needs £x to raise y children, some people still think it's ok (and society's problem) for them to have more children than the experts suggest they can afford.
there are people in this world who live in real and absolute poverty watching their kids die of starvation or treatable illnesses, try telling them they need a western benefit to live acceptably
The one thing that winds everyone up is that the people who do work for a living is no better off than those who don't. Working should always increase ones standard of living but sadly that's not always the case. Someone on benefits with enough children can have a better standard of living than other workers, which is totally wrong. The standard of living should come from what your worth to society.
Workers are sick and tired of being told they are "privileged" for having a job. Privilege is surely being supported by those in a position better off than yourself without having to lift a finger to earn it! People on benefits should be forced to earn that privilege by doing community work.
"Errrr the lunatics have taken over the asylum."
Is it the beneficiaries money or the tax payers money?
Socially acceptable wage
'Socially acceptable' is a subjective measurement, and as such has no part in a serious debate on poverty. It is irresponsible to even refer to it.
Things like the living wage creates artificial unachievable norms.
Should we limit the number of children in families that have benefits?
Should people on benefits be able to earn more than those who are working?
Should people who have an income receive benefits?
Should immigrants receive benefits?
Should those who live in expensive areas receive benefits?
Should benefits vary per region?
Should benefits have a time limit, to be used as a springboard only?
Should benefits be linked to wages or inflation?
Should benefits be paid for in cash?
Should beneficiaries be asked to give something in return? (do community work, or other work)
Should benefits be given to those who have caused their own situation?
Should people who could stay with family or friends be eligible for benefits?
Should people on benefits have accommodation better than people working?
Should benefits be linked to what is put in?
Should benefits cover just water, electricity,telephone and food? or More?
Should benefits be given to those with savings?
Should benefits be universal?
Should benefits go up by the same amount as wages?
Should benefits be based on need or entitlement?
Should benefit payments be capped?
Should benefits be tax free?
Should more benefits be paid to someone unemployed than someone earns in the workforce in the same situation.
Should those on benefits be made to feel shame?
The system of working-age benefits had gone "truly awry".
It is necessary for unemployed people to prove they are capable of doing a job by means of an interview prior to getting the job and reviews during the course of having said job to show they continue to be capable.
The same standards should apply to benefits seekers to prove they deserve the benefits in the first place. And recipients should then be reviewed at a timely periods to confirm they continue to be deserving of benefits. Don't view this as being tough, its just common sense.
Those within the benefit system grow up with a series of expectations:
This has sent out some incredibly damaging signals.
It gave us millions of working-age people sitting at home on benefits even before the recession hit. It created a culture of entitlement.
Have governments tried to get more people eligible for benefits by changing definitions, like broadening out who is in the disabled category?
Should those that are disabled automatically get benefits, or should they be made to do what work they can. Disability is a wide category. Stephen Hawkins can work.
"In the United States in the 1960s, welfare rights campaigners argued for food stamps for certain groups on the basis that some of them were alcohol abusers"
Is it better to incentivise good spending than to control it through a prepayment card?
Some people argue that vouchers for food stigmatise those on benefits, but if given on a prepayment card no-one need know, and other subsidies like family allowance could be paid in the same way to reduce stigma. Other alternatives could be put forward to reduce it. Benefits are supposed to be only a short term measure, so the stigma should pass.
Should first year benefits be paid in cash and future benefits be paid with vouchers?
Could the government give a choice to beneficiaries a smaller cash payment a larger voucher card.
If they are going to spend our hard earned money, it should only be on essentials.
Which countries are vouchers already in place? Australia? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-18951205
Benefits for a year then any job must be taken, not just one you are looking for.
Why bother with vouchers, why not give them food parcels.
They should not be called Benefits or entitlements, they are actually a subsidy. Likewise with calling it income.
Who is worse, the benefit scroungers or the enablers.
The child benefit cut, saving for an evaporating pension while paying for parents in long-term care, not to mention helping the children pay for university. Is this the end of being comfortably off, asks Michael Blastland in his regular column.
Put it this way: every £1bn is the equivalent of taking away services or money worth £1,000 from one million people, every year.
Do you cut your standard of living or dip into the house that you hoped would bolster your pension?”
End Quote Michael Blastland
Which one million people would you have in mind?
And that's just the first billion. There are another 84-ish to go. Which is why the politics of cuts grows nasty. The Chancellor says we are all in it together, invoking a sense of collective sacrifice. Your country needs you, says David Cameron, pointing our way.
But I see no volunteers. Instead, the one collective effort on view is to duck - and point elsewhere. The "middle" points at the "scroungers" at the 'bottom'. The "bottom" points to the broader shoulders higher up. Both point to the "top". And the "top" says it pays for everything already and should get something back.
Well, it could be worse. Actually, it will be worse. There are bills not yet fully in the equation, like that for long-term care as the population ages.
Everyone points out that life is expensive enough already. If you are in the middle or perhaps above, do you save for the children's university fees, or your mother's long-term care, or maybe your own? If you lose universal benefits, like child benefit - worth £1,750 a year for two children - that adds up over 18 years to about another £35,000 gone.
Is the benefits system even affordable?
People can pay into a fund they control (like Chile) rather than a slush fund.
Charities can provide assistance.
Link53 Long term unemployed could have benefit cut 320
Link52 English Poor Laws
Link54 Benefits vs Deficit
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20459252 (should beneficiaries manage their own money)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-20897681 (benefits linked to activities)
http://www.cityam.com/latest-news/allister-heath/work-placements-the-unemployed-make-lot-sense (work placements)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21706978 Benefits stats
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/danielhannan/100210244/under-any-welfare-system-some-deserving-people-lose-and-some-undeserving-people-win/ Effectiveness, some miss out others get undeservedly
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-22065978 How much do people need to live on.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-22263706 £1 recipes
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-24369514 Benefits for under 25's
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/9329346/Daughters-words-motivate-mum-to-get-off-benefits Benefits a choice
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-26743802 Welfare cap