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Minimum Alcohol price

What is a minimum alcohol price?

Definition:  

Its a price that retailers may not sell alcohol below. Usually to reduce consumption.

Wider definition

  • If the retailers give something away for free with the alcohol, is that considered in the price?

Losers

  • Responsible drinkers on low incomes
  • Pensioners
  • Everyone who is looking for value in their shopping and treat them as a binge-drinker
  • Unfair on businesses that sell goods at low prices, if these company's colluded together to lower prices that would be illegal, but since the Govt. is involved its o.k
  • People who want to live and not just be alive.

Responsibility

Why should responsible drinkers pay more?
Responsible drinkers being unfairly penalised. The health impact is not the governments responsibility.
They're not "health campaigners" - they're control freaks from the temperance lobby.
It is possible to not get drunk AND not buy cheap alcohol you know!


The price of alcohol is not the cause or the solution


Effectiveness

  • He said there was no evidence minimum pricing worked because "alcoholics are not sensitive about the pennies". He called for more to be done to stop shops selling alcohol to under-age drinkers and make pubs deal with drunk people on their premises.
  • You can make alcohol as expensive as you like, it will only force people to starve themselves or their children, to rob & steal or turn to drugs. They are addicts.
  • Meanwhile responsible drinkers are forced to pay more for a legal product.
  • Drinking is not a cause but a symptom.
  • Binge drinking is a social/attitude based issue, and has nothing to do with price
  • Upping the price would simply have punished those who did not deserve it and driven the problem drinkers to crime to fund their drinking.
  • Price will not reform an alcoholic
  • If you make alcohol too expensive then you start getting a lot of home-made appearing. This is even worse as a health policy than cheap booze from a supermarket. There is already a problem with bootleg vodka.
  • Problem with minimum pricing is that it will drive alcoholics who cannot afford their habit to consume unregulated products, like meths, mouthwash, or industrial alcohol.
  • It's not about price, it's about attitudes. 
  • Anyone who wants minimum pricing on alcohol must be drunk!
  • This works o the premise that only the poor buy cheap alcohol and so will out them off, this will have no effect on wealthier drinkers.
  • Insidious way of getting money without addressing the core problem. 
  • Minimum price will not have much effect on goods where the consumer is price sensitive.

Fairness

  • Using price to control habits is ridiculous as the HUGE majority are responsible drinkers.
  • I dislike any solutions that punish everyone just to catch the target group. 
  • People are being punished without having committed a crime
  • Last night i was charged £4 - four pounds! for a bottle of Corona in a run of the mill central London pub. What this country needs is a maximum alcohol cost law, not the other way round!

Alternatives

  • The Government needs to come up with better ideas than simply increasing taxes/prices to solve a problem
  • "Educate - don't Legislate"
  • Tax is for raising money, not for influencing our lives.
  • People can brew their own alcohol
  • A much fairer approach would be to introduce NHS charges for treatments that two doctors certify as being required primarily because of alcohol or drug abuse.
  • People should be fined for drunken behaviour, including assaults, charged for treatment at A&E and charged for travel in booze buses or occupying police cars. They should be forced to attend treatment sessions and fined for consuming alcohol and a check made of any economic and behavioural issues affecting any of their children.
  • Buying alchol over a border
  • Government should be focusing on more important policys that have a clear benefit.

Consistency

Why do government think that increasing the price on alcohol will reducing people purchasing it, but not think increasing tax will reduce people producing/working?

Which one is it are people price sensitive or not?

What next

  • The minimum price level slowly gets adjusted up, the drinking age slowly gets raised.
  • Think a lot of people are becoming increasingly fed up with these health campaigners trying to influence every part of our lives.

People have given up on trying to change people around them and now try to outsource this to goverment throug the threat of force. Some things are out of the Governements control, which is why prohibition doesn't work. My money, my life, Governments choices

Links

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-20515918
https://www.gov.uk/alcohol-duties
Minimum pricing - also in the Banned alcohol section

Reference

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-21766309
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